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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:48:00 -
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This is something I have wondered for a while but never got round to trying in practice. But the theory doesn't look good. The potential mods for passive shield tanking are:
Shield Flux Coil II: recharge +30%, shield size -15% Shield Power Relay II: recharge +27.5%, cap recharge -35% Shield Recharger II: recharge +15%
These mods are quite considerably worse than their equivalent cap mods so lets have a look if the benefits of passive tanking outweighs this.
Forget flux coils - the size reduction also reduces recharge rate, so the benefit is minimal. Forget the power relay, you still need cap for other things like shooting and EW and warping (imagine trying to do 8 jumps with no cap recharge...) and -35% hit is ridiculous. Well that leaves the 15% recharger. But the ship's natural shield recharge rate is less than half that of its cap. For example (unskilled) Scorpion has the same cap and shield size 4250, but cap recharge is 923s and shield recharge is 2000s. Since cap can be "converted" into shield using shield boosters, at a better than 1:1 ratio using named/tech2 boosters or a boost amp, you're better off going for a good cap recharge with shield boosters. 7x cap recharger II and one XL C5-L would easily be better than 8x shield recharger II.
Of course the obvious "balance" would be if shield power relays nerfed cap boosters, not cap recharge. Bring them into line with cap power relays, which nerf shield boosters not shield recharge!!!
Does anyone actually use any of these shield recharge mods at the moment??!?!
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:48:00 -
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This is something I have wondered for a while but never got round to trying in practice. But the theory doesn't look good. The potential mods for passive shield tanking are:
Shield Flux Coil II: recharge +30%, shield size -15% Shield Power Relay II: recharge +27.5%, cap recharge -35% Shield Recharger II: recharge +15%
These mods are quite considerably worse than their equivalent cap mods so lets have a look if the benefits of passive tanking outweighs this.
Forget flux coils - the size reduction also reduces recharge rate, so the benefit is minimal. Forget the power relay, you still need cap for other things like shooting and EW and warping (imagine trying to do 8 jumps with no cap recharge...) and -35% hit is ridiculous. Well that leaves the 15% recharger. But the ship's natural shield recharge rate is less than half that of its cap. For example (unskilled) Scorpion has the same cap and shield size 4250, but cap recharge is 923s and shield recharge is 2000s. Since cap can be "converted" into shield using shield boosters, at a better than 1:1 ratio using named/tech2 boosters or a boost amp, you're better off going for a good cap recharge with shield boosters. 7x cap recharger II and one XL C5-L would easily be better than 8x shield recharger II.
Of course the obvious "balance" would be if shield power relays nerfed cap boosters, not cap recharge. Bring them into line with cap power relays, which nerf shield boosters not shield recharge!!!
Does anyone actually use any of these shield recharge mods at the moment??!?!
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge.
Congratulations, your hard facts defy my theory!!! Would be interested to know your ship type and setup  CB.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey I do and I love haveing a 39second recharge.
Congratulations, your hard facts defy my theory!!! Would be interested to know your ship type and setup  CB.
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 16:06:00 -
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Ah, I'm talking about tanking a BS spawn or PvP, rather than indy self-defense...
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.15 16:06:00 -
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Ah, I'm talking about tanking a BS spawn or PvP, rather than indy self-defense...
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:04:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=109867
PDU II's look good for BS passive shield recharging. A whole bunch of these would give you insane cap as well! Must get round to trying it one day...
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Charles Burger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 13:04:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=109867
PDU II's look good for BS passive shield recharging. A whole bunch of these would give you insane cap as well! Must get round to trying it one day...
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